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hi
everyone welcome to our series of um
drought case studies across the north
west region
today I'm here with Laurie and John Chaffey
from the Summerton area my name's Kate
McCarthy and
I'm a northwest local land services
livestock officer which I should have said but yeah here with
Laurie and John and we're just talking about some
of the strategies that they
implemented over the drought and some of
the things that
I guess some of the lessons that they've
picked up and and what they'll
they'll utilize moving forward even in a
good season so
Laurie and John Chaffey own a mix farming enterprise
they run sheep cattle and have cropping
they have 2700 hectares of yeah mixed farming
country
beautiful at the moment and yeah we
found it really
valuable having a chat to them about
some of the things they've
picked up and learned and i guess what
we pulled out of having the discussion
was
that they really have an emphasis on
preparedness and planning
um you know implementing those plans but
taking the time to to put them in place
john i'm going to ask you about i'm
going to ask you about some of the
things around feed base some of
the strategies that you've just
mentioned to me earlier about
what you implemented from a storage um
both hay and grain and some of those
things so if you want to touch on that
yeah so over a number of years of
farming and cropping sort of thing and
livestock stuff we've been worked out
that our strategy
involves trying to have a certain amount
of feed on hand
whether and that will be hay and grain
to
keep our production system going through
at least two seasons and possibly more
if we can
and so in going into this drought we
actually had quite a bit of grain stored
on farm
some still in the grain corp system and
some hay
as well and so we we tend to use
those things we've we bought in cotton
seed
at various stages depending on what our
feed base was
we also actually have a fever to curry
jung country and we
utilize that probably not by itself but
always put
either cotton seed or grain or something
with the carry junk which we generally
use just for cattle as well
so we sort of we'll do up our our plans
on how much feed we think we're going to
need
to get through to a certain point so and
our key points are carving weaning
joining and those sort of things and so
we'll do a bit of a plan as to what we
do
we'll try and have enough grain to
and hay on hand to do at least like I've
said
six to 12 months at a time uh
other issues what have i missed no i
think when we were talking about before
something i found interesting was with
the storage side of things like you guys
talked about like you you obviously um
had hey
uh sorry silage was it silage grain
grain stored
20 years yeah um but one of the
challenges
or I'll let you talk about the chair so
that was right so we put some years ago
we had a surplus of oats so we dug pits
put it in the ground
and this time we got to dig it out which
all created new challenges for us into
how to handle it and getting it out
but that grain was still as good as the
day we put it in there still had as much
rye grass in it as when we put it in
no weevils or anything a bit of weather
contamination around the edges
but yeah we needed to learn how to
remove that grain um we've since
actually
acquired a grain back or the family of
the quite a grain vac which will help us
do that again and we'll be prepared to
bury grain again yeah
we should need to yeah and that'll
become a strategy for us
yeah to deal with it yeah and just one
one more thing is that
we're talking about the hay side of
things and i said oh you know
with your hay stories you like to have
your hay sheds full and you're oh well
not at the moment but it's one of the
things that you really
strive for yeah yeah no well planted
hopefully we've got
paddock put a side of eights now this
year we'll
make into hay we'll probably bail some
straw behind the harvest
header as well to just have some
roughage to go with
rations and things so yeah no excellent
thanks john
um and now yeah we'll talk to laurie
about one of her passions i guess
cows um we when we were talking about
our case study we broke it up into
certain components like a bit of a whole
farm thing so
touch on the feed base but yeah
obviously step into the animal side of
things so
so Laurie what what were some of the
strategies around
you know your cattle enterprise that you
implemented and what you
like the lessons that you've pulled out
of that thanks Kate
um we started probably with too many
cows
something that we said after a previous
drought we wouldn't do but circumstances
meant
we had um more than we wanted we
again assessed depending on the cycle
they were at whether they were
pre-joining
whether they were carving whether they
were weaning at what management we would
do
with our cows we always try to balance
that up with what we
anticipated would be the feed we don't
really like
feeding cows full you know full we'd
rather
balance that up so we did some budgets
early out
and then we decided with the help of our
vet
um as to any cows that we're not going
to carve within a six
week window and we sold them that was
very traumatic
very sad but it has had positive
spin-offs
we carved those out when we started
through the drought
we also have a um fattening mob
like our wieners that go through we keep
our heifers and then we usually fatten
out
steers we then started to target
feedlots like for our stairs instead of
finishing them
again doing the budgets what it was
worth to fatten them what we had the
feed and that but
we didn't really have the manpower like
to do it we had the resources
except for the manpower and when we did
the budgets it was easier to
just to sell them at that point in time
with our heifers um we feed for
production so we wanted to feed so they
had enough weights to
join but we sold them
we decided to sell them so that we could
focus on our um
cows and our production again keeping
production in mind
getting help along the way is really
beneficial
um so we did do some lls workshops which
with was really helpful reading
the the drought strategy bibles um
looking up information talking to people
getting all that support is really
really helpful
early ween so um early wean
is pretty um heart-wrenching for some of
us
but um we our youngest weaning weight
was probably around about 160 so it's
not as
as light as what some other people do uh
and then we just managed them instead of
um
yeah just making sure we matched up
their nutrition
one of the things we well we did but we
shouldn't have done it was
we didn't mark um the bull calf
until two bit too late so again
if we had our time again in the future
we would actually use probably rings
and maybe settle them down and then um
use rings and and mark them definitely
not leave the
the marking till as late as what we did
yeah and uh and again
feed for production try and aim for
where you're going
have a plan uh where you want to go
reassessing your cows focus on your cow
weight
condition um making sure that they're in
that you know
increase it to to be able to join so our
joining percentages
are pretty high um and then anything
that doesn't
carry their weight so they've got to
have a calf got to get back and calf if
they don't they get to go
yep um yeah i think that's probably
pretty much
how it all goes the other day yeah we
like yeah again when we were having a
talk about this
one of the things that i really enjoyed
about the decisions that you guys made
was that you
you know at that point in time you said
when you know when it came to looking at
tightening your carving
you seen an opportunity there and you
acted on it um
and that followed through each and as
you might see like you guys are
listening
a recurring theme is planning and being
you know thinking you know reassessing
that plan every
every couple of months so that was the
plan titan carving and that's followed
through
to weaning and the plans that you made
around weaning early waning
the nutrition strategy in in the cows
and and you said you've
like yeah the carved the mobber calves
that you you early wayne did doing
really well now so
yeah yeah yeah so that's um it's
definitely
it's really interesting to see from that
side of things john back to you
from the sheep side of things a few key
points
uh i guess one thing that we haven't
probably seen it is that
we tend to do things uh in steps
and so instead of doing everything
in one go with like we cut out of cow
numbers back slowly when the sheep side
of things
we we chose to keep our core breeding
herd
being flocked to where it was normally
and then sold our weathers off or sold
our lambs off or fattened our lambs
we actually confined land one year
um we've we'd try and keep we had we
started with having sacrificed paddocks
um and fed in those sacrifice paddocks
they
reached the point where they were no
more viable to lamington so we then land
into smaller pens
we'll probably not try lamb in smaller
pens we can but
again if we can avoid it but if we
and learnt that by keeping your u score
fat score to that three and a half prior
lambing you can probably land in a
paddock whereas if
you usually lose too much condition you
may have to
confine them to land them but there
again if they were in good condition to
be confined they would probably have a
lot
much higher land survival rate by having
good scores
yep um where else was i going with the
so we gradually reduced our weather mobs
down
with sort of sheer fat and sheer fat and
shear fat into
and have we've actually the first time
we've not had weathers on our weather
block in
30 years so that's sort of there's the
significance of that drought to us
and now we will probably either breed
our own back up
or restock our weather
maybe if we can find something so that
yeah and i think
yeah the nutritions are is one of the
key things that we could pick up from
that like you guys were
all over that from a from a condition
score side of things and
and we're aware of how much
condition scores influenced by nutrition
and i think a lot of people
during the drought just we became aware
about how
it is a challenge to manage it quite you
know so
that's a really good point to take from
that like you just said everybody
learnt a whole lot about animal
nutrition it's out of this strap that's
one thing this drought taught people
how we can how to feed and we learned
how to feed far more
efficiently than we yeah we did
previously i think um
just an add to that kate is the planning
and um
and having some sort of distraction i
know this is not but we used to have
smokos and it might sound really
ridiculous but
it was just where we came together and
um we our son
Thomas was working with us as well we
would just
have down time just review just go where
are we at
and then stick to your plans so in
talking to him we said well what's the
takeaway message
do a plan stick to your plan and get
help like get other people
to information from other people so that
you were making those plans with the
very best
of information you possibly could and um
and
you know it's it's okay yeah yeah yeah
I think that summarized it pretty well
Laurie like
yeah one of the things is obviously all
the lessons that
everyone learnt throughout the drought
but they're from a from an individual
like as
as people not not so much the enterprise
but as people
what was important for you guys and that
was taking time out
so if you could say you know in a couple
of words
you know both of you what would you say
out of this whole
thing john just
plan yeah plan and stick to your plan i
think that was all you can do
and try and i guess our other thing was
we we tried to remain with some
degree of productivity yes probably not
full productivity but
have some productivity and have your
base so that when it is over
you've got something to go on with yeah
and i guess
unfortunately with a cropping enterprise
i mean we've missed our crops
but we've actually got the ability to
put a bit more cropping country in
to help get our pasture base back on
some of our sacrifice paddocks and
things like that which we haven't
spoken about earlier but that's yeah and
Laurie
what would you say just plan plan plan
talk to people
yeah stay focused um probably have a bit
more time out even if it just means
getting in a car and driving up the road
for an hour or so
yeah um yeah that's probably pretty much
review
and what this is really good i find this
really
valuable to reassess yeah and certainly
this sort of case study project i would
have really enjoyed that
during um the dry time just to go and
go oh there is a human part to this
whole thing
and people are important and um yeah so
just uh the planning we did have
weddings as distractions
um but it was it's just everybody
together and being supported
and making those decisions yeah being on
the front foot
i think and and hopefully these case
studies will will help
if we if we have to encounter it again
then something like this will help
um other producers in the region or
anywhere
with with some of the decisions they
have to make so thank you for your time
i really appreciate it and thanks for
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